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Glantrian Fads

Postby Patrick » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:07 am

One of my favorite aspects of G:KoM and the Almanacs is the idea of faddish monster fashion (and the Progeny) being quite popular around 1012. These products were published in the mid-90s, when the Goth subculture was at its peak, and I enjoy the parallel faddishness :D

So, now it's been around 17 years (really? I must be old), and RW popular culture has changed. So I'm curious what the current fads in Glantri are around, say, 1030 AC. Here are my initial thoughts....

It's a Lizzie Thing

Twenty-some years after the destruction of Caurenze, the mythic legend of the Circus Lizzieni becomes all the rage in Glantri City. A handful of surviving young descendants of Caurenzan survivors party hard, while seeking to match the musculature and big hair of their heroes from the arenas. The most popular of these young folks is Michaelo "The Situation" Sirrecchia, grandson of a highly-popular gladiator hero. This nucleus of survivors is surrounded by a much larger crew of wannabes: they work out, feather their hair, and dye their skin orange to blend in. Most beloved of this group is the miniscule Nicole "Snooki" de Fedorias, a hard-partying member of the Belcadiz clan.

Not to be outdone by the youngsters, the older generation of Caurenzan exiles is fiercely clannish, holding onto their LIzzieni identities and their generations-old family feuds. Says matriarch Carolesa Manzo before flipping a table, "You mess with my family, you mess with me!"

Hipster Glantri

Wizarding just isn't what it used to be. Saddled with debt and facing a sparse job market, recent graduates of the Great School must do what they can to make ends meet in a world that somehow fails to recognize their brilliance. Many have had to move back in with their parents, back to Glenmoorloch or Leenz or New Alvar. Others live in cramped squalor in Glantri City's suburbs, while still others simply go further into debt in order to afford a tiny efficiency studio in the now-gentrified West Side Quarter.

By day, they work at whatever they can: nursing their anger over the lack of opportunity as they serve as barristas at Pennydown's or clerk at stores where they cannot afford the clothing. In their free time, they gather over four-sovereign coffees at Pennydown's, or attend exquisite dinner parties at a fellow hipster's house. They discuss critical discursive conjuration; they savor fine Averoignese wine, competing subtly each to establish himself or herself as the premier wine-taster of the party; they analyze the assumptions underpinning the linguistic shift from witchcraft to wokanism; they compare the virtues and shortcomings of various Sindhi yoga instructors. Each Glantrian hipster takes great care in selecting clothing that matches his or her unique and quirky fashion sensibility, yet somehow those outside-the-know seem to always think they all look the same.

Other ideas?

I'm not sure where else to go.... Occupy Alexander Platz? Virulent anti-Sindhi sentiment culminating in "Just build the danged wall"? Something Justin Bieber-themed?
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby JTrithen » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:55 am

Well, for myself, D&D and general roleplaying (especially fantasy roleplaying) is an "escape" form of entertainment for me, so I would generally not be interested in reflecting too much of the real world in my gaming (I'm speaking mainly from a DM perspective). There is nothing wrong with your ideas, though. Personally, I just wouldn't usually make such interests (or the aptly-named "fads") a primary focus of adventures or major part of a campaign.

But, to entertain these ideas....

Patrick wrote:It's a Lizzie Thing


When I first read your heading, I thought of "lizard"-related subject matter (or even "Lizzie" the iguana from "The Magic Schoolbus [ha, ha]). I thought the lizard-related idea might be cool, but that's probably related to the other "monster"-related fashion mania you were talking about at the beginning of your post. To explore a "lizard"-related fad that a little further....

Dapper Dragon Regalia/Reptile Rage

Up-and-coming wizards are setting the trend of changing appearances with magic to affect scale-like skin, eyes with slits, heads bearing rows of "fins" or spikes, and/or sometimes dragon or lizard tails. Established mages and middle-class merchants, etc. are copy-catting these effects. Many users change their skin color, voices, create 'breath weapon' effects, etc. (Who knows, maybe even some of the more powerful wizards know some secrets of the carnifex, and are trying to emulate some of their appearances -- claws and body-type changes that are akin to 'Velociraptors.')

Virulent anti-Sindhi sentiment culminating in "Just build the danged wall"?


Interesting idea. A little too controversial for me, I think. Why, specifically, would the Glantrians dislike the Sindhi? It's true that they don't like the Ethenger, and the Ylari (among other nations). (There is already some anti-'RW-Middle Eastern' culture sentiment built in to the setting. Read: anti-Hule sentiment. That only reflects what is somewhat prevalent in RW Western culture, IMO.) But, the scenario, if plausible, might be interesting. The characters might have to make some moral choices involved in making friends or enemies or be involved in guarding construction of the wall; if they are Glantrians, would they choose to magically contribute to the wall construction?
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby Seer of Yhog » Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:47 am

If Justin Bieber appeared on Mystara the Blackball of Good Taste would pop up and devour him instantly.

I like the Reptile Rage idea. I could work with that.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby Patrick » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:15 am

JTrithen wrote:Dapper Dragon Regalia/Reptile Rage


I love it! A Glantrian spin on body modification :D I can just picture some overwrought parents wringing their hands and crying, "What kind of man will ever want to marry a girl with a lizard tail?"

Virulent anti-Sindhi sentiment culminating in "Just build the danged wall"?


Interesting idea. A little too controversial for me, I think. Why, specifically, would the Glantrians dislike the Sindhi? It's true that they don't like the Ethenger, and the Ylari (among other nations). (There is already some anti-'RW-Middle Eastern' culture sentiment built in to the setting. Read: anti-Hule sentiment. That only reflects what is somewhat prevalent in RW Western culture, IMO.) But, the scenario, if plausible, might be interesting. The characters might have to make some moral choices involved in making friends or enemies or be involved in guarding construction of the wall; if they are Glantrians, would they choose to magically contribute to the wall construction?


It doesn't necessarily need to be aimed at the Sindhi... the die-hard Flaems dislike pretty much everyone else, right? But if you want a parallel to US/Mexico relations (and I was thinking in terms of applying RW trends), I think the target would need to be a country with which Glantri has at least reasonably friendly relations. A wall along the Broken Lands or Ethengar border would likely be aimed at stopping armies (this, it seems to me, doesn't offer the same moral quandries); conversely, a wall along the border with Sind, Wendar, or the Heldannic Territories could be aimed at stopping refugees/economic migrants.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby Patrick » Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:21 am

Seer of Yhog wrote:If Justin Bieber appeared on Mystara the Blackball of Good Taste would pop up and devour him instantly.


This seems like a hypothesis that could be empirically tested... has said blackball destroyed Ierendi? Or every existing copy of Rogues to Riches? No? Then we must reject this hypothesis ;)

I (speaking as someone who doesn't know what Bieber sings or much of anything about him except what I see on the cover of checkout-line tabloids) assume that the Biebs would have to be a Glantrian archvillain, impregnating middle-aged superstars and annoying pretty much everyone. Wait... what was the name of that little lightning zombie from WotI? Maybe we've found the answer to what he's up to in 2030.... :evil:
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby JTrithen » Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:59 pm

Patrick wrote:Wait... what was the name of that little lightning zombie from WotI? Maybe we've found the answer to what he's up to in 2030.... :evil:


Yeah, he's the most prominent 'young' character I would think of, off-hand. Funny.

Crackle was his name.

There's a reference to him online in the fanon Mystaran Almanac & Book of Facts, AC 1018, at http://pandius.com/1018yar.html.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby catherinemacdoff » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:26 am

I think you can work on Justin Beiber theme. Many other themes can be searched on internet. All the best for your project.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby Cthulhudrew » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:06 pm

I once had an idea that among the theatre of Alphatia, the roles of dwarves and other "little people" (halflings and gnomes) would be played by humans wearing fake beards and stomping around on their knees. The Alphatian equivalent of blackface, as it were. Very popular among the pure Alphatians, and even entertaining to others, but very offensive to dwarves, and playing a part of tensions between Stoutfellow and other Alphatian nations (and being illegal within the borders of that nation).

I could easily see Glantrians doing this sort of thing as well.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby willpell » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:19 pm

I have no idea what any of this is about, but it's hilarious.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby Patrick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:44 am

What fun thread necromancy! I saw the thread title and that the original poster was "Patrick," and I wondered who beat me to that handle on The Piazza. I was about halfway through reading the first post before I figured out that I'd written it--five years can feel like a very long time!

The 2012ish fads referenced, for those unfamiliar...
- "It'a Lizzie Thing" references an odd fascination with New Jersey that swept American pop culture. "Jersey Shore" and "The Real Housewives of New Jersey" were hit tv shows. Larger-than-life characters with orange skin and big hair had all sorts of adventures, and the shows included characters explaining "It's a Jersey [pronounced "Joy-zee"] thing."
- "Hipster" is a hard-to-pin-down subculture in the US (and, at least to some extent, other countries). Google it if you really want to know.
- "Occupy Alexander Platz" references "Occupy Wall Street," a left-wing protest movement in the US from this time.
- "Just build the danged wall" and variations were calls for a wall between the US and Mexico, popularized by John McCain and Sara Palin, among others.
- Justin Bieber is a Canadian singer/recording artist who was huge in the US for a while.
- "Reptile Rage" references a body modification subculture within the US (and almost certainly beyond)--folks for whom piercings and tattoos just aren't exciting enough.

Now five years later, I think I'm out-of-touch enough with pop culture that I don't even know what the current equivalents would be.
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Re: Glantrian Fads

Postby willpell » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:26 am

Patrick wrote:- "Just build the danged wall" and variations were calls for a wall between the US and Mexico, popularized by John McCain and Sara Palin, among others.


Bet you never thought that one would get MORE relevant with time....

- Justin Bieber is a Canadian singer/recording artist who was huge in the US for a while.


Is he not still?
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