Sturm, you're full of great ideas!
Well, Makai could have become what they are after Taymora... resulting from a maharian population and another M-polinesian one coming from the Sea of Dread.. in 2300 BC the M-polinesian could still be in Adhuza and the Makai are still fully neathar (something like a nuragic civilization or cycladic one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuragic_civilization
). Shouldn't also Colimans be around with a similar culture?
Do we have any information on where the Colimans originated from? One nice thing about having the Coliman culture in coastal Brun would be that after BC 1700, all of their works would be hidden beneath the waves (essentially wiping all traces of them from Brun - er, well, at least from the surface of Brun...). This is the kind of theme I really like for BC 2300!
Sturm wrote:For the Maharian I'd use as the main inspiration middle eastern cultures: that's because they should have been influenced by lhomarrians (who according to Geoff are the inventors of piramids, writing and other things that in RW occured in the Middle east) and because their relatives, the Varellyans, have a M-phoenician culture according to Geoff.
Middle eastern for Maharians seems like it would work. I have to admit I'm not up to speed on how the Lhomarrians fit into the big picture (at least with respect to Brunian cultures). Seer, would you care to elaborate/speculate on that topic?
Sturm wrote:The little problem is to link Blackmoor/Thonia with that.. canon Blackmoor and d20 too have clearly M-european cultures (scandinavian, english) and the high Thonians seem quite north european.. yet the common thonians are described as dark of hair and shorter, so they seem to be south europeans... if thonian colonist are the south european element and maharians are the middle east element that fits perfectly with Taymora as M-Crete.
I'm definitely thinking that the Thonian colonists would be Common Thonians. Short and dark of hair seems more appropriate for the Taymorans. I agree that the mixture of Common Thonian and Maharian would make for a perfect M-Crete Taymora.
I'm less sure how to resolve the issue of the Thonian = M-Europeans, and how that would fit into Taymoran society. It's possible that after the GRoF (and at least 500 years of living with other peoples indigenous to Brun), that there is quite a bit of cultural blending going on. Bits and pieces of Thonian culture could still show up in the BC 2300 era Taymora as artifacts, names, stories/histories, etc...
Sturm wrote:How to use all this in your Taymora? I think this could be very useful to differentiate customs and cultures of the individual cities, as we could assume that several if not all of them should have a previous maharian (and/or oltec/makai/unhuman origin) before the Thonians...
So for example each city could have differences in customs for marriage, jewelry, name of immortals, taboos and much more.. I could develop some ideas if you want and expand a bit the timeline before the GroF.
I very much agree with this approach. I've already been toying with the idea of breaking Taymora out into 3 or 4 major geographical entities (for lack of better descriptors I'm calling them north, south, east, and west Taymora) - see this post
. What if we integrated your cultural diversity idea in with that? For example, perhaps southern Taymora assimilated the Coliman culture. Western Taymora might contain a large number of Oltec descendants (leading to your M-Polynesian culture). Northern and eastern Taymora could be predominantly Maharian. Even within those boundaries individual cities could differ in culture and customs quite a bit, but I'd like to tie in some level of geographical cohesion. What do you think of that idea?
Of course, the core Taymoran culture (and particularly the nobility) would be descended from the Thonian colonists (though I do suppose a lot of cultural mixing has gone on since their initial colonization), which gives us a unifying element. Although the nosferatu/vampires might all share a core belief system, I can imagine several reasons why they would want to promote individual city state customs. For one thing, if they are competing/fighting with one another (to some degree) such jingoism could lead to a populace that is more easily controlled by an entrenched nobility, and less easily swayed by the vampires next door, so to speak.
Anyway, if you want to run with this idea, I'd love to see it! Also, there are quite a few as yet unnamed settlements on the map... so naming them might be a good way to work in some of those distinct regional cultural traits.
Sturm wrote:Anyway where exactly the Thonian colony was in 3000 BC?
I'm guessing it is somewhere near the Black Mountains above Sind. Next on my list of things to do is to put together a migration map for all of these related people in the area. That should help us start to visualize where these people came from and how they might have interacted with one another.