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Re: Comeliness

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snorri wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:12 am
In the late 80's, I dis use Comeliness éventuellement in my Becmi campaign. PC's hasard both Comeliness and Weapon masterizes and Wresstle Rating ;)
Sounds like my group in the 80s. We wanted to use every optional rule we could find. More rules, the better, we thought. Now I am more inclined to remove things that don't really matter. :)

Of course, it depends on the campaign.

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Re: Comeliness

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Havard wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:58 am
snorri wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:12 am
In the late 80's, I dis use Comeliness éventuellement in my Becmi campaign. PC's hasard both Comeliness and Weapon masterizes and Wresstle Rating ;)
Sounds like my group in the 80s. We wanted to use every optional rule we could find. More rules, the better, we thought. Now I am more inclined to remove things that don't really matter. :)

Of course, it depends on the campaign.

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Anyway, I dont remember usinng Comeliness, but if was on characters sheet. But I did use Wresstle Rating a lot. A stone Giant ? No problem, let's Wresstle !

I also remember using an aging effect table from Runequest, as Dominion files makes Time an important factor of campaigns.

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My very first D&D character had a comeliness score of 5. That's when you're so ugly that you put a bag over your head.

Luckily, it was a science fantasy game, so we did a little plastic surgery.

I vowed after that character that I would never use comeliness again. :P
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Re: Comeliness

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snorri wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:12 am
In the late 80's, I dis use Comeliness éventuellement in my Becmi campaign. PC's hasard both Comeliness and Weapon masterizes and Wresstle Rating ;)
Whoa, "eff you autocorrect" goes multilingual....

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willpell wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:31 pm
snorri wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:12 am
In the late 80's, I dis use Comeliness éventuellement in my Becmi campaign. PC's hasard both Comeliness and Weapon masterizes and Wresstle Rating ;)
Whoa, "eff you autocorrect" goes multilingual....
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Re: Comeliness

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Dragonhelm wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:35 am
My very first D&D character had a comeliness score of 5. That's when you're so ugly that you put a bag over your head.

Luckily, it was a science fantasy game, so we did a little plastic surgery.

I vowed after that character that I would never use comeliness again. :P
I once played a Dwarf with a Cha of 4. I decided that this was because his nose was so big you couldn't really see his face...

Okay I was like 12 at the time :lol:



But my DM hated this idea and killed the character off at the first session. ;(

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Re: Comeliness

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Havard wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:37 pm
I once played a Dwarf with a Cha of 4. I decided that this was because his nose was so big you couldn't really see his face...

Okay I was like 12 at the time :lol:
Aside from Charisma not really being the same thing as Comeliness (but they're conflated a lot, by a huge part of the fanbase), I like this interpretation. Makes me think your guy looked like Avatar from the Ralph Bakshi movie "Wizards" (which is terrible, don't watch it, but you can probably find a picture on Bing image search).

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Re: Comeliness

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I couldn't find anything about it in my PHB and he had a bunch of strange ideas about Charisma changing Comeliness that didn't really make sense to me. It felt like half a stat to me. I didn't realise that it was a 1st Edition thing until later.
I’m going off memory here, but I seem to recall that Comeliness is rolled last (as mentioned earlier) and is modified by your Charisma. Thus, if you had a high Charisma and rolled 18 for Comeliness, you could have a Comeliness of 20+. A low Charisma gave you a penalty.

I bought into Comeliness when it came out, but the novelty wore off. I was more interested in how GURPS handled it; you spent points or gained points by making your character beautiful or ugly. Nowadays, I just describe the character as attractive or not independent of any stats. That good-looking guy may be easy on the eyes, but once he opens his mouth, people can instantly hate him. And a homely guy could still motivate and command several underlings.

Fun story about Living City back in the day. When I first played LC, they used Comeliness. Each character was built using a set number of points. I want to say it was 84 points across 7 attributes. I’m going off memory there. The lowest you were allowed was 6. A lot of PCs in Ravens Bluff were pretty ugly. My character was a spy spoof, so I gave him 18 Comeliness. Then LC decided to drop Comeliness, so they rewrote the character creation to have 72 points across 6 attributes. All those players with a 6 Comeliness suddenly found themselves with fewer points and had to knock off 6 points from the attributes. I, however, got a refund of 6 points and became more powerful. There was a lot of grousing but not from me.
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